Cristian
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We are all talking about how to improve SEO for websites, we have plenty of advises and proposals for our clients, especially at the begging of the "contract".
Most of us offer a wide range of SEO services claiming various results and a successful rise in sales. But what happens when we don't deliver on everything we promised?
SEO is not an exact science, it takes a lot of trial and error type of work and some websites and extremely difficult to rank for various reasons. So what happens when the client paid you for 6 months of SEO implementation and the results are not visible, the websites gets the same amount of sales?
Have you ever run into this type of problem? How do you deal with the client?
I feel blessed because all of my long term SEO campaigns had resulted in direct results and improvements in traffic and ranks, but I'm scared about the fact that someday, my luck will run out and I'll get a website that I simply can't improve and I will not be able to figure out the reason behind it.
What am I going to tell the client?
Please share your experiences on this subject, I love reading success stories, but sometimes to avoid future problems you need to learn from other people's mistakes!
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But if you're selling SEO services outside of SEOClerks, and you do provide an SEO service for someone and it doesn't improve in rankings. There is only really so many things you can do and say to them. The first being to wait longer as sometimes with SEO, it's a waiting game. You need to give it some time like 2-3 months so all those new links can be counted/indexed and mature. Or, to run the service again, thus effectively doubling the impact that it can have on that clients site. But even then again there is no guarantee that the rankings will improve in said amount of time. There is never a guarantee of that when it comes to SEO. All you can guarantee is to do the work and do it right as advertised and on time. Any SEO that "guarantees" better rankings from their SEO is over selling their service IMHO. Sure it's fine to say that the SEO can improve your rankings. Because generally that is what happens. But to "guarantee" better rankings, that's a no no in my book.
And doing so will only make it backfire on you if you don't actually make their site rank higher after performing that SEO. Although as said, generally it does, and that's why a lot of self-claimed SEO experts and gurus out there will guarantee it. But then, that's what a contract is for to say look, we can only really guarantee the work to be done as advertised and according to schedule and you agree to us doing this and not that we guarantee you better rankings although that might come after our work is completed. That way you're covered.
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