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Response time bug jumping all of sudden

Sudden jump in response time to a too low level of 6 days from a good response time of nearly 6 hours.
Anyone else facing similar problems like me? I have been watching this response time jumping from around 6 hours to 2 days earlier. It gets back in some hours to normal again. But this time it's gone too low beyond my imagination.

Now I'm downgraded from level 3 to level 1 for this bug. Waiting some hours to get back my original response time and deserved level for that. Still it's one unpleasant experience I got.

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robertman11
There hasn't been any updates relating to response time. Usually this happens when a seller responds to an old order they forgot to respond to (or even complete, tsk tsk). Contact the Helpdesk if you think this is in error and a staff member will be able to analyze what caused it.

Just for the sake of knowing, response time is calculated only on orders messages (not inbox) as such:

-- Buyer message (1:02)
-- Seller response (1:04)
-- Buyer message (1:10)
-- Seller response (2:10)

So, the seller responded to the first message in 2 minutes and the second one in 60 minutes. 60+2 = 62 / 2 = Average of 31 minute response time.

This is calculated by seconds rather than minutes but for simplicity sake, I used minutes above. This calculation is for every buyer/seller order message/response during a 30 day period. The 30 day period is not orders created during the last 30 days but responses by the seller during the last 30 days. A seller could respond to an order 1 year later and that response will be included in the calculation.

Hope that clears it up.



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Aplau
Yeah, I'm 100% sure this is a bug for my case. I was having a good response rate near 6 hours in the morning.
And 6 days seems unrealistic. I've already contacted Helpdesk.
I hope they solve this soon.



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Aplau
Like it used to be jump. My response rate is returned to 3 hours. May be it will take another hour to get back my Level 3.



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robertman11
What is your ticket number and I'll have a look?

User levels are updated every 20 minutes.



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Aplau
Ticket No. 145412
I have got level 3 back now. It took more than 40 mins.
But I do fear this bug may appear again.

Thanks



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robertman11
Thanks. It looks like it took you 6 days to respond to the final message of the buyer for order #2966637. It also took you 3 days to respond to #2904958. You have a few others that were 1 day and most are less than 24 hours.

Your average response time is 12,836 seconds calculated from 36 responses over the last 30 days.

Hope that helps!



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Aplau
Yeah, my real average response time 12,836 seconds or less than 4 hours as you have mentioned. I haven't calculated, but was guessing between 6 to 9 hours to be real average response time.

Actually the average response time is jumping too much like it's changed from 3 hours to 7 hours within one hour. 6 days was the worst I saw.

Thanks a lot for showing my real response time.



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Artois52
I have noticed something strange happening on response time too.

Mine is currently showing 20 hours, and I am online every day of the week, and I respond to all my order updates.

The SEOClerks user levels page states that order updates only are included in the calculation of response time, not messages in the inbox. Could it be that this policy has changed?

Anyone else noticed this happening?



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idealmike
My response times jump about wildly, I do try to update all my orders straight away as soon as I can but sometimes I cannot and have to wait until I'm online the next day or I'm just awake! I usually log in on my phone when I'm not on my PC so I can manage/update my orders that way. And I find, that eventually, my response time does go down again. I managed to get it down to 1 hour or something once I think it was. Right now I think it's saying 18 hours again but I don't think I've ever taken that long to update someone's order but like Rob says, it's the way it's calculated from an overall perspective. That's why though you should always update your orders even if it's just to reply to a "thanks" that the buyer has left with a "you're welcome!" or something. Response time bug jumping all of sudden

Just keep chipping away and updating your orders as fast as you can and your response time should go down again. Response time bug jumping all of sudden

Hope this helps and good luck!

Mike.



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Aplau
I have tried my best for response time. But it's a bug for which my response rate gone that bad from a real less than 4 hours (as mentioned by robertman11) response time to 6 days. If you face such jump and lose level, you can't just help yourself.

Before it used to jump less like 6 to 12 hours, 1 day. Before a day or two it jumped to 2 days. And this last one is 6 days. I hope tomorrow it shouldn't jump to 12 days. Jumping effect is for some hours only.



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robertman11
It may appear to jump, but it is constantly changing. This is because 1) Order responses older than 30 days fall off and 2) Your response time is constantly changing based on new responses (even if that is only a few seconds or a few days).

OrderResponse TimeDays ago
1234518400 seconds (6 days)30
233236000 seconds (10 hours)5
99823600 seconds (1 hour)1
8734518400 seconds (6 days)2
Totals1,044,000 seconds (12.08 days)

Now, in the above example you have a total response time of 1,044,000 seconds. You have 4 orders that are being calculated. 1,044,000 / 4 = 261,000 seconds or 3.02083333 days.

Your response time is 3.02083333 days. Using that response time and the numbers above, consider these scenarios:

1) Tomorrow, you get an order and respond in 1 hour (3600 seconds). What is your new average? You may say 1,044,000 seconds + new response time of 3600 = 1,047,600 / 5 = 209,520 seconds or 2.425 days... You would be incorrect. Notice the 1st order was 30 days ago and this scenario is tomorrow. The first order (6 days response time) would fall off and not calculate. Your new response time would be 561,600 seconds / 4 = 140,400 seconds or 1.625 days.

2) You don't receive an order tomorrow and make no responses. What is your response time? Answer: It remains the same, 3.02083333 days. Your score isn't updated until you have a new response to be factored.

So, I hope that helps everyone understand. I also was able to legitimately use the new tables in a response, so I am happy. Response time bug jumping all of sudden



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Aplau
Now I got it where is the real problem with response time.
Buyer Orders, Provides instruction,
Seller connects with buyer.
Then buyer ends the message.

Then seller starts work in between 5 days & replies after 5 days. These 5 days are added to seller response time. Now I'll have to end the conversation at any circumstances to not lose response time. But it will be awkward to message when buyer ends the conversation.

Even if this is still a problem. But I don't see any solution can be taken by SEOClerks as it is hard to guess whether buyer or seller is ending the conversation or not.

Only way is seller have to message in such way that maximum time you yourself ends the conversation.

Now I got it how automated response time conversation is calculated.
Actually I was not counting those 5 hours added to my response time.

Thanks a lot for explaining.



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robertman11
No problem. I agree, that is an awkward situation and an unanticipated result of the response calculation. I've seen a lot of sellers just reply with something simple like:

Ok

or
Thanks

or
Great. I'm starting your work now and will respond again once completed.



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Asmodeus
My response time has been bouncing around a lot lately as well and I dropped from level 3 down to 1 because of it. I sent a ticket to support the first time it happened, but it was back to normal by the time I heard back.

Now I don't sweat it. It's obviously a glitchy system, but fixes itself fairly quickly. A couple days ago when my level dropped from 3 to 1 because my response time supposedly jumped from 11 hours to 6 days it only lasted a few hours before it was back to level 3 and the 11 hour response time I've actually had for months, as I'm online every day and I always respond quickly, except when sleeping, of course.

It's a flawed system, but it works itself out, so no biggie. Enjoy your day! Response time bug jumping all of sudden



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robertman11
It shouldn't jump around that much, that often. Most, if not all, issues we've seen have been because of an order a seller responded to days (and in a few cases, several months) late.



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Asmodeus
That may be true, but then it should be setup differently. I respond to every single order within the same day (within 11 hours), so that should be my response time (which it is).

However, if a buyer posts something like "Ok, thanks!" AFTER I've already responded within the 11 hours, then I shouldn't have to respond to them AGAIN just to keep my response time down. I'm already busy off doing their orders.

It can often take a few days to do an order, so I should be able to take that time to do the order and then come back to deliver it days later without needing to post something in each order page every day to keep my response time to under 24 hours.

Luckily, even when the system does give me a crazy response time of 6 days and drop me to level 1 it quickly "realizes" the mistake within a few hours without needing to wait 30 days to recalculate it, so it's just a short term annoyance. It's happened twice in the past 30 days or so. If it lasted longer than a few hours, then it might be cause for concern, but I'll get used to it...lol



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