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I love fan forums, those amazing sites built by loving fans in honor of their favorite TV show, character or celebrity, populated with tens of thousands of posts - loving debates and content devoted to one central figure/show.
For example, Doctor Who is one of my favorite characters/shows of all times and I'm more likely to join a fan made forum about Doctor Who than an 'official' forum or even an 'official' Doctor Who FB page as it's way more fun talking with real fans who love the show as much as I do.
So anyway, today I was checking around for new fan forums of interest and found one devoted to a particular singer that was completely private. This thing had ranked for some obscure phrase, which I'm sure no one was searching out. And, I happen to stumble upon it by accident. And, no possibility to see the content without signing in.
Not sure if they rank for anything many 'fans' would be searching for or if the forum has much of a real content bank at all - considering you have to sign up and sign in to even see the basic content on site.
I'm still puzzled how such sites that block their content out from fans (whom they are supposedly trying to reach) as well as Google can hope to attract new members.
Unless they are somehow using social media (my best guess) such as Facebook to attract new members/posts.
Seems counter productive to me, to block your potential members/fans from seeing your content if those are the people you are trying to attract to your site.
I can see how some sub-forums with sensitive or private info might be reserved to 'members' only, that's just natural. But not the entire forum!
Another issue here, how they had a big Adsense banner on the main/home page. No real content going on there, so what's the justification for that?

Just assumed Google required actual meaningful content for pages where Adsense is being shown.
Maybe it's a public service ad, who knows. :/
Anyway, so yeah, that's my gripe with forums that block content meant for fans. How is it useful to do that? At least give the fans some real reason to sign up, rather than locking it behind doors and expecting some kind of mind reading trick to guess at all the good content on that site. Seems counter productive to me.
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Some forums which require registration or subscription are configured to allow googlebot entry to create listings in google which will cause people searching for answers to come and sign up / subscribe.
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The reason that some forums block their content from showing all depends on the type of forum that it is really. Most forums that do it, do so because they literally don't want their information to be read by search engines. And also be anyone that isn't a member of it. So they'll force registration on you before you can participate in that forum. This can be a double edged sword though. Because on one hand, it does increase the amount of members you can get, but on the other, if they don't like that content and the forum community on a whole, they'll probably be a bit miffed as to what they were forced to sign up and create an account just to read the forum threads etc.
But for some forums that are very busy and have a lot of activity, new threads, thread replies etc. They just know that people will only sign up and become a member if they have a genuine vested interest in that forum. And the forum owners know that once they are a member, they will be much much more likely to actively participate in that forum. So in a way, forcing people to sign up to the forum first before they can read the forum threads etc is one way of increasing the amount of users on that forum and more users means more traffic and that means more earnings for them. Whether they earn by having ads on the forum or through selling some type of service or something.
And yes that is true about the Googlebot. Some forums have accounts on them actually named "Googlebot" or some other bot name. Digital point for example. If you look at their online members now, you'll often always see "Googlebot" in the online list. But they are restricted and can only read threads they can't start threads! Well not as far as I'm aware anyway. I mean, I've never seen a thread started on any forum ever by Googlebot. Have you? :)
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And the Adsense thing you showed now just pissed me off. I struggled for months to get my Adsense account approved. I only recently got it approved and I was trying since January this year. For my oldest website they said that I had no useful information... you know my mommy blog, you've been on it. I was so upset so I tried to get it approved on my online marketing website which was at the time less than a year old, but I had been working so hard on it and it had so much really excellent information. Same thing, no useful content!
Then you say a website like this where nothing is accessible has Adsense... uggghhhhh. Well I guess once you have an Adsense account you can put it on any of your websites... so that must be how it happened. Oh I don't like it when I am forced to sign up to get access to see what is in a forum. Yes I agree with you, I can also understand why this is done at times when there is sensitive information. And the Adsense thing you showed now just pissed me off. I struggled for months to get my Adsense account approved. I only recently got it approved and I was trying since January this year. For my oldest website they said that I had no useful information... you know my mommy blog, you've been on it. I was so upset so I tried to get it approved on my online marketing website which was at the time less than a year old, but I had been working so hard on it and it had so much really excellent information. Same thing, no useful content! Then you say a website like this where nothing is accessible has Adsense... uggghhhhh. Well I guess once you have an Adsense account you can put it on any of your websites... so that must be how it happened.
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