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Have you ever been part of a MLM pyramid scheme?

I'm wondering if anyone here has been part of a MLM pyramid scheme? This question is derived from the "SmashFund - the next best social media and crowdfunding platform in one?" discussion. If you haven't viewed that discussion you should!

Pyramid Scheme:
a form of investment (illegal in the US and elsewhere) in which each paying participant recruits two further participants, with returns being given to early participants using money contributed by later ones.

I'm wondering if you have ever took part of one, and if it was actually successful for you. In some countries it is illegal to operate a pyramid scheme. A lot of the times owners of pyramid schemes are usually jailed for fraud.

I want to know your experience based on such schemes. If you have never took part, why?

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Webguy2024
Actually, I have never participated in MLM because it is fraught with scammers. I recently learned of a new MLM scam from a colleague which got involved in a particular MLM scheme and it is called https://www.worldgn.com/usa/

Their pitch is exciting ---> BUT!!!!!
Products do not work as promised along with many other issues of non delivery. My friend also reported that they are engaged in false advertising. I can't personally verify this but I trust his 20+ years of expertise in this field, plus he bailed on the company which, say a lot.
MLM TIPS: DON"T TAKE THE BAIT SO QUICKLY AND VERIFY EVERYTHING BEFORE YOU PART WITH YOUR MONEY.

Gentle Note: Work for yourself. If you guide your own life path you will be happy, wealth and wise. Enough said here. If an opportunity pops up and seem too good to be true then it is time to verify and read the details of the terms and conditions with a discerning business eye! If you still don't understand the goobly goop then move on. No One Gets Rich Quickly Online! It take hard work and perseverance. If anyone disagrees with this statement, then please give an example of a get rich scheme that actually works so, I too can make some fun money, Lol Have you ever been part of a MLM pyramid scheme?



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Lynne
Brilliant advice. My advice for all MLM... run, run for the hills. Run fast and run far.



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Everett
Or just click the little "X" symbol on the window tab ;)



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Lynne
Yes that works too. I always close as soon as I see MLM, no point in reading any further than that is there?



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Everett
There is no point at all. No need to waste your time, and be scammed.



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ajlancer
Hi Webguy2024 you explained really well. Here on BD lot of MLM company operating their business and specially near about 2000 some MLM companies operating their business very well and lot of customer was involve but after some years they scram. And they made huge amount of money by selling virtual product. Though as per as I know selling of virtual product violation of local consumer rules. And as my experience said over 90% MLM companies are selling virtual product and they false advertising about product. Or, and they has few product and very high price and has some investing plan but visionary and never reachable.

Regards by Ajlancer



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Lynne
My first introduction to MLM was when I was in my early twenties and a neighbor invited me for coffee.... and told me to bring a friend. It did seem a little odd at the time to "bring a friend or two" but she was so friendly and nice that I just ignored that and invited my best friend to come with.

When we arrived she gave us some biscuits and coffee then pulled out a whiteboard and started telling us about this amazing opportunity with Amway. I got sucked into the promises and so did my friend. We signed up and very soon it became very clear it had nothing to do with products, it was only about suckering the next person in.

I don't like MLM, I think it is deceptive and underhanded. If something is MLM that is all I need to know, I am NOT interested.



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procoder
Totally agree with you, because same thing happened to me with those 'MLM' companies. I've never been part of it , because i know how they works and what's behind them. It has to do nothing with business, you need only good skills with lies. Furthermore i hate them , and i'll never join them...



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Lynne
I just see a pyramid scheme, which is dressed up with products that are nothing exciting just severly overpriced. The only real difference between the two is that MLM has a "product" otherwise it would be illegal and classified as a pyramid scheme. Just the way that I see it. In my eye at least a pyramid scheme is more honest because there is no pretense at selling products!



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procoder
Very true. One of my friends suggested me to join in one of these MLM which he's currently working. Their product was, a domain name + hosting registered for 3 years and price was $750. Now , why should i buy that product for $750, while i can purchase it online with only $61 for 3 years.I would lose $689 from my budget. So..Is this a scam? Sure, it's a pure scam.



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Lynne
Exactly Procoder! That is what gets me too, is that you have to buy in to these schemes. Why should I have to pay money to promote anything? I can be an affiliate instead for loads of companies, any that I choose and promote any company I want without paying any joining fees or having to buy any products... and I can earn money and commission. So why would I join some stupid MLM program and be forced to work things their way only.

I hate MLM and I can't see why anyone would like it. All I see is not only money lost, bus also friends, family and work associates will take a wide berth in future!



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procoder
Couldn't agree more Lynne! People are joining them, because they believe that is a profitable business, but in the end it's just a waste of time and money...



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Lynne
I can't understand how people can't see that the entire business model is just unsustainable! Maybe short term money can be made but then it will dry up.

I love affiliate marketing Have you ever been part of a MLM pyramid scheme?



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procoder
There are two options, they don't understand, or they don't want to understand...

And yeah i love affiliate marketing too.



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Lynne
I think they don't want to understand. It is amusing (in a very sad way) because I just had some guy call me an idiot on one of my reviews of a pyramid scheme. He said he knows exactly what a pyramid scheme looks like because he has been caught out with them 9 times.... Obviously he can't spot one because he gets sucked in every time.

I shouldn't say this... but I am going to anyway... some people just have no brains at all. This is the reason why these scams are so successful and it seems they catch the same people over and over again.



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Everett
I shouldn't say this... but I am going to anyway... some people just have no brains at all.


It's not that they don't have the brains, it's usually due to inexperience of online earning. People get brainwashed very easily with those hopes of making it rich online. The website will display fancy cars, beaches, or mansions, and tell the user that they too can have all of this.

So, what this does is entice the user to signup and participate. It's really a never ending cycle that just keeps going around and around. If one finds that they can't make money on one MLM pyramid scheme, then they will without fail find another and repeat the cycle.

It's very sad to see someone caught in this cycle, you just want to pull them out and be like: "I'll show you how to make money online, stop going for these scams!!"



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Everett
It's devastating when you try and help someone, only then to find out that the service or business is actually a scam. Why do so many people scam? Seriously can't they create a REAL business, and earn REAL money and try that? I mean they apparently know how to market, so they should be able to run a REAL business.

It just irks me when there is so many people caught up in scams that can't get out because they keep being told to wait for the opportunity, or the opportunity will come to stay with the company.. bleh bleh is all i hear! LOL



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TommyCarey
I've been looking over smashfund ever since someone posted about it the other day in the community discussion. I made a profile over there and everything lol Have you ever been part of a MLM pyramid scheme? I just haven't had any time to actually get deep into researching what they're all about.

Anyways, a long time ago (in a galaxy far far away) I was dumb and joined up an MLM system that I didn't realize was a scam. They didn't take any of my money because I sucked at marketing back then, but they could have cleaned me out if I stuck with them. There were a ton of people there, I wish I could remember what it was called. All the people did was get referrals and hope that their referrals referred people, it sucked.

I was actually on instagram not that long ago and someone kept pushing what was obviously an MLM scheme. The kept tagging people and posting about how they made $1,000 yesterday and are on track to make $1,200 today, which is not true at all. The guy even went as far as to rent a Bentley for $500 and take pictures in it. He was so dumb that he even told people that he was making so much money that he rented a Bentley for a day lmao Have you ever been part of a MLM pyramid scheme? Hell, I can go rent a Bentley for $500 if I wanted to, but I'm not trying to push some crappy MLM scheme to get people to sign up and market my links Have you ever been part of a MLM pyramid scheme?



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Lynne
ROFL laughing, I posted about SmashFund Razzy, and oh it is bad.

Yeah I can also rent a Bentley for a day and post pictures of me in it.. but why one earth would I do that? I hate MLM and there is so much of it online, it makes me sick. People lose money and they lose friends.

Like you say they target friends and family, tagging people in posts. I really detest that sort of thing.



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Everett
Yes, not only is the person posting photo caught in the scam, the friends and family could also be caught in too. Scams can be somewhat of an addiction. The thrill of making easy money on the internet is probably the same as gambling, and thus probably the same psychological disorder? You always want to win. It's something that probably isn't taken into account via the medical industry which actually needs to be looked at, and peered reviewed by a panel of psychologist.

Just think, millions of people have probably been in a scam at some point in their life. Even I have, and that site was like 2dollarclick, and that was years ago.. I was stupid and just starting out earning money on the internet.



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Everett
Oh yes, I think that site is by far the biggest scam of 2016. I mean really? Paying $149 to signup and referring users to signup and you get like $50 from their signup, if they actually pay the $149. That site is absolute crap, and it'll probably go down as the scam of 2016. Lets hope I am wrong.



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ajlancer
Hi Everett thanks for your question. Yes in our country MLM (multi level marketing) or network marketing was very popular near about 2000-2010. And here several type of MLM company operate their business with different type of offer. And most of them business plan are same. I mean pyramid business plan. One guy is leading person and another guy is right person and another guy is left person and they will carry forward business with several commission. And I was involve a MLM company before starting work as outsource contractor. And I successfully did few months. But, then they scram after some months. Now I personally neglect all MLM companies and all are deceiver. They just play gambling with customer.

Regards by Ajlancer



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Everett
Yes, there is a lot of pyramid schemes everywhere, not just in your country. :/ It's very devastating that they offer the world, and basically you get nothing, but days, weeks, and even years taken off of your life for something that doesn't even works, and that will never work.



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Corzhens
Sometime in 1997, my boss joined an MLM. The products are legitimate particularly leather shoes and bags. However, there is a joining fee of 8,000 pesos which is roughly equivalent to $200. That joining fee is fine with me but what was wrong is the commission that my boss will earn from my sales. And she said that I can do the same when I get a recruit. That didn’t sit well with me so I evaded the and when she insisted, I told her point blank that it is against my policy to earn from the efforts of other people. That activity did not even reach a year because they ran out of recruits and they were not able to sell anymore. It was like throwing away that $200 joining fee.



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/opt/clerks-staging/docroot/libraries/adodb5/adodb.inc.php 1899 CacheExecute() getUserProfileImage()

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/opt/clerks-staging/docroot/libraries/adodb5/adodb.inc.php 1899 CacheExecute() getUserProfileImage()

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/opt/clerks-staging/docroot/libraries/adodb5/adodb.inc.php 1899 CacheExecute() getUserProfileImage()

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/opt/clerks-staging/docroot/libraries/adodb5/adodb.inc.php 1899 CacheExecute() getUserProfileImage()

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/opt/clerks-staging/docroot/libraries/adodb5/adodb.inc.php 1899 CacheExecute() getUserProfileImage()

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