hitmeasap
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Over the few past years betting and gambling sites have exploded and it can be seen literally everywhere on the internet. People from all over the world can easily place bets on various sites using both credit cards or PayPal, just to name two of the payment methods.
Obviously, these things often leads to addictions but if we forget about that part for now.. You can bet on things like football games and all that.. But, you can even place bets on CS:GO matches for instance.
With that being said, I've seen a lot of people having this like their "profession", and many of them are making loads of cash..
Some of them are truly putting in hours into this, to calculate the risks, finding information regarding different players to see if they've been sick etc. So they make real analysis. They also "invest" their money, as they are placing their money in the hands of a team of players..
Would you call them Freelancers and would you call it "investments"?
Discuss! 
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hitmeasap
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I wouldn't call it freelancing or investing. It's gambling through and through no two ways about it (no gambling pun intended)! With freelancing you're working for the money so as long as you do the work you're pretty much guaranteed the money. Investing money and gambling money both have their risks. But investments are only usually made following a lot of research and can also be insured too for really large investments. You can do a lot of research into players and their teams and calculate the most probable odds, but when it comes to betting on sports or any game, anything can happen and usually do so the risk is a lot greater. Plus you can't get betting insurance! However, for some people who have passions in some sports like football, horse racing etc and are knowledgeable about them can use that to their advantage to calculate the most probable odds of course. And some people are better at it than others. Some people really do make a lot of money from it too. But they usually loose a lot of their money quickly too as the buzz of winning takes over and makes them place ever bigger bets to try and score a win. Not many people ever get out of the gambling hook early and walk away with a profit before all their winnings are spent.
You're right though. It seems there's a new betting website or app starting every weekend. And the ones that are big have ever bigger adverts saying come to our site deposit $10 get $100 free to play with! But they don't tell you that the minimum withdraw has to be $250 or something. I remember reading a story about a guy who gamed them all at their own system though. I think he joined one site, won money, then used that to join another and win money and kept doing it all the time until he made about 100k or something. And there's some people that do that with free online poker games too. There's people that enter free poker tournaments that offer cash prizes to the winners, then win of course (because poker is 99% luck 1% skill) and then use that to enter more poker tournaments and win them and go on to make a million or something. It happens!
But yeah, no I wouldn't call them freelancing. :)
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On the other hand, I'd wager (no, gamble!) that very few people who use these sites are professional gamblers. I'd bet (10 to 1, haha) that the majority are amateurs and never see a return on their profit, or very little return. Rather than the question of "what" they are doing to earn money to be considered a freelancer, it is more of a question about their knowledge and profit. Tough! I'd say the professional Gambler who actually makes a consistent return [i]is a freelancer[/i]. They've developed the skill (just as webmasters, SEOs, etc) to actually win and make an income. This is no different than learning to write great articles for clients on a freelance basis. They know which sites to gamble on, the rules, how to win, how to collect, etc. In the eyes of the US Government, they would be considered self employed. On the other hand, I'd wager (no, gamble!) that very few people who use these sites are professional gamblers. I'd bet (10 to 1, haha) that the majority are amateurs and never see a return on their profit, or very little return. Rather than the question of "what" they are doing to earn money to be considered a freelancer, it is more of a question about their knowledge and profit.
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