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I'm sure that most of us are using Facebook and its app messenger, actually I think that it doesn't exist a smartphone without messenger installed on it.
Now I'm not saying that if you use facebook you should use messenger, but if you're using it every day probably you've noticed an option called "secret conversation" , this feature is available only on android and IOS platforms, and you need to turn it on manually from your messenger, to do that simply click to profile which you want to send encrypted message and click to "Secret Conversation".
Now, according to Facebook this feature is using end-to-end encryption which means that only you(sender) and your friend(receiver) can read those messages, after sending a message via this option you have to set timer, timer is an option that allow you to choose how long will your message stay active after your friend read them, so if you choose a timer 60s , your message will be deleted automatically 1 min after it's seen.
So since they're using end-to-end encryption it means that even the facebook can't read them, why does this sound like hmmm ,a bit weird?
What do you guys and gals think about this?
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But okay so it's end-to-end encrypted but you can also choose to secret the conversation you're having with someone in that anything you say or receive is deleted after a certain amount of time. So that way, not only is your conversation encrypted but it's also like one of those Mission Impossible messages that says "this message will self destruct in 5 seconds" or however long in minutes you decide! That is kind of cool in a way. For some people anyway such as those that don't want their nosey friends or their kids or work colleagues or even their partner to "accidently" stumble across some illicit or potentially damning conversation you've had with someone. Or perhaps you just want to discuss something very top secret and didn't want what was said to be seen by anyone such as if you lost your phone or it was stolen or something and someone was somehow able to bypass the pass lock on it (provided it was enabled).
So that's kind of good in that kind of way. For those people that might need something like that. And there hasn't ever really been anything like that before in any conversation or messaging app so it's kind of an innovative feature that is better to have and not need than it is to need and not have if you know what I mean!?
As for "So since they're using end-to-end encryption it means that even the facebook can't read them, why does this sound like hmmm, a bit weird?"
One thing I always wonder is. These encryption methods they use right. Well someone has to write that. It's based on some mathematical algorithm usually right? So if they can encrypt it. They can also decrypt it too. Since you can encrypt and decrypt anything if you know the encryption algorithm which they do. And then look at that from the perspective of the government as well. They like to snoop in on International and internal conversation and we all know they use some methods for listening out for certain words to aid in the fight against terrorism, organized crime, fraud etc. Surely they and Facebook can decrypt it if they really want to? Surely Facebook can read them and they don't keep it encrypted. This is Facebook we're talking about here. They want to know everything about you from what you eat to what you wear and watch. Who you talk to and what you talk about. All so they can send you better, more targeted ads. So yeah, perhaps you're right, it does sounds a bit, hmmmmm, ominous! Hmmm I don't know what to think about it. I'm just an end-user of these apps and when I see they say it's encrypted end-to-end. I and every other end-user just take that at face value and presume it's a good thing. It means anything I see or send is encrypted and can't be intercepted and deciphered (unencrypted) and used nefariously by a cyber crim in basic layman's terms right? But okay so it's end-to-end encrypted but you can also choose to secret the conversation you're having with someone in that anything you say or receive is deleted after a certain amount of time. So that way, not only is your conversation encrypted but it's also like one of those [b]Mission Impossible[/b] messages that says "[color=#FF0000][b]this message will self destruct in 5 seconds[/b][/color]" or however long in minutes you decide! That is kind of cool in a way. For some people anyway such as those that don't want their nosey friends or their kids or work colleagues or even their partner to "accidently" stumble across some illicit or potentially damning conversation you've had with someone. Or perhaps you just want to discuss something very top secret and didn't want what was said to be seen by anyone such as if you lost your phone or it was stolen or something and someone was somehow able to bypass the pass lock on it (provided it was enabled). So that's kind of good in that kind of way. For those people that might need something like that. And there hasn't ever really been anything like that before in any conversation or messaging app so it's kind of an innovative feature that is better to have and not need than it is to need and not have if you know what I mean!? As for "[color=#0000FF][i][b]So since they're using end-to-end encryption it means that even the facebook can't read them, why does this sound like hmmm, a bit weird?[/b][/i][/color]" One thing I always wonder is. These encryption methods they use right. Well someone has to write that. It's based on some mathematical algorithm usually right? So if they can encrypt it. They can also decrypt it too. Since you can encrypt and decrypt anything if you know the encryption algorithm which they do. And then look at that from the perspective of the government as well. They like to snoop in on International and internal conversation and we all know they use some methods for listening out for certain words to aid in the fight against terrorism, organized crime, fraud etc. Surely they and Facebook can decrypt it if they really want to? Surely Facebook can read them and they don't keep it encrypted. This is Facebook we're talking about here. They want to know everything about you from what you eat to what you wear and watch. Who you talk to and what you talk about. All so they can send you better, more targeted ads. So yeah, perhaps you're right, it does sounds a bit, hmmmmm, ominous!
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